Talk:Level 50 Gear Guide

Reasons not to suggest desyncing coils for gear:

1. Solo farming (Savage) only works at 50, and is thus not a sustainable way to teach sprouts to get gear.
2. It requires a level-capped player to help you, or for you to already be capped.
3. It requires that you have no Poetics or Gil, which is incredibly unlikely.
4. It is confusing to have three different methods called out at the top.
5. The Heavensward 115 gear (and all catch-up gear) is given by the MSQ, so there will be a steady supply on the Market Board even if no one is crafting this gear.

Freedom4556 (talk) 17:08, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Artisan's Gear - Purchased how

Why does this guide suggest buying the Artisan Gear with Company Seals? As long as you're a Lieutenant in your Grand Company and have done the level 50 Disciple of Hand quest, you can pretty reliably make the HQ materials to get the Master I tomes. Yeah, that also costs thousands of seals in materials, but far, far less than actually buying the gear straight-up from your Grand Company.

• 9 Hardened Sap - 1800 seals (to make Treated Spruce Lumber to get Master Carpenter I)
• 18 Coke - 3600 seals (to make two Darksteel Ingots to get Master Blacksmith I and Master Armorer I)
• 9 Peacock Ore - 1800 seals (to make Rose Gold Ingot to get Master Goldsmith I)
• 9 Animal Fat - 1800 seals (to make Hard Hippogryph Leather to get Master Leatherworker I)
• 9 Potash - 1800 seals (to make Vanya Silk to get Master Weaver I)
• 9 Lime Sulphur - 1800 seals (to make Growth Formula Delta Concentrate to get Master Alchemist I)
• 1 Cooking Sherry - 20 seals (to make Sauteed Coeurl to get Master Culinarian I)

totaling 12620 Seals. And then the items from the Master tomes that you trade in for the Artisan primary tools and armor (such as Rose Gold Cog or Spicy Tomato Relish) don't require any seals at all, you can just craft these with stuff you gather completely normally.
Not to mention that if you only want the armor, not every single primary tool, you could also buy only one of these tomes and be fine. This means that you could get by with only 20 seals by buying Cooking Sherry, crafting Sauteed Coeurl, exchanging that for Master Culinarian I, and then make a whole bunch of Spicy Tomato Relish to exchange for the Artisan armor.
Compare this with

• Artisan's Spectacles - 5000 seals
• Artisan's Gown - 6500 seals
• Artisan's Fingerstalls - 5000 seals
• Artisan's Chausses - 5000 seals
• Artisan's Pattens - 5000 seals
• 8 Artisan's primary tools - 60000 seals

totaling 86500 seals!
Why would you ever choose the latter option? At that level, that is actually a massive amount of seals.
Nixitur (talk) 17:42, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

The Teamcraft leveling guide recommends just using the IL 55 tools you get from the lv 50 class quests until lv 63 and skipping investing in IL 70 Artisan's Tools, assuming you're using Ishgardian Restoration as the main leveling method. That only makes 26500 seals required, which is relatively easy to obtain from just exchanging dungeon loot, and is simpler than having to craft all of these intermediate items. - Dr Agon (talk) 20:04, 11 November 2023 (UTC)